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Intel Itanium sneak preview

Door Wouter Tinus, woensdag 24 januari 2001 10:35, views: 16.939

Conclusion

Before you start typing your "Intel sucks " reaction it's advisable to read this last part as well. There are a number of points that can explain the bad performance in our benchmarks.

* Pre-release hardware:

The Itanium we tested is, as you know, a 667MHz model. The versions that will be released will run at 733 and 800MHz. That extra clockspeed will not mean that the Itanium suddenly becomes a lot faster but we should assume that the final version could undergo other changes, like a faster revision of the core or a faster IA-32 decoder. It's pretty unlikely that the performance will suddenly increase a lot but it wouldn't be a surprise if it would increase.

* Pre-release software:

Windows Whistler itself is still beta, but also the IA-64 HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is probably nowhere near finished. Microsoft will probably improve and optimize many things before the release, which will also result in better performance. Remember, we don't know in what part the slowness is caused by the software and in what part by the hardware.

* Lack of IA-64 benchmarks:

We could not run IA-64 software on the system, simply because it was nowhere to be found. It should be remembered that the Itanium was 100% developed for IA-64 and that the IA-32 decoder was only unimportant to Intel. The true power of the cpu lies not in the tests that we conducted but in the applications that are still being developed. Early benchmarks with IA-64 code on Itanium systems have shown that the new architecture is certainly capable of blowing the P4 out of the water with half the clockspeed.

From our own experience we can only talk about Whistler, the only piece of Itanium software that we've been able to check out. The operating system ran smooth, which at least leads us to conclude that the Itanium in IA-64 mode is at least as fast as a Pentium III or Athlon at the same clockspeed.

* Itanium as part of a larger whole:

The Itanium may not have an ideal performance yet and no ideal price/performance at all but that's never been Intels goal. The first IA-64 processor was made to prove that it is possible and to develop software on it. The Itanium is no more than a first try. The second generation, McKinley will also live its life in extremely expensive database clusters. Not until 3 or 4 years from now will the successors to the Itanium enter the homes and that is enough time to improve the IA-32 performance. The introduction of the new 64 bit EPIC architecture is without a doubt the biggest and longest Intel project ever and the Itanium is just a first start for what awaits us.

* Conclusion:

The IA-64 architecture is promising because of the revolutionary EPIC features that will enable us to build bigger and more powerful computers in the future. However there is still a long way to go and before the bad IA-32 performance of the first chip disappoints you have to look at the bigger picture. You won't be seeing this at home anytime soon after all:

Whistler 64 booting

Finally, we would like to thank the person who made this review possible, his name has to be kept secret, but we know who you are! We would like to thank gollem and Majic for translating the article.

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I am dutch btw :)

Could be a great idea, butt isn't it the fact that Tweakers.net is in dutch that makes it so popular in the Netherlands and Belgium?

fet woet bie ee verie goed ijdie.
tet wee we ken prektis ower inglisj es wel

I am dutch btw
Dus jij bent die vent die van iedere gulden die ik aan m'n pc uitgeef 19% krijgt, zonder er ook maar iets voor te doen?!? :P

Huh
Ik vind hier net een reactie terug die ik kwijt was :?
Zeker op een bug geklikt in t.net ;)
Hij zou ECHT in de nederlandse versie moeten staan maarja... blijkbaar niet :)

a good and interesting review, i've seen a few typos occasionally, but i couldn't have done a better job ;)

i wonder how long it will take AMD to start designing an 'affordable' 64 bit CPU as well..

* 786562 sir

You saw the typo's but not the note about the AMD Sledgehammer, AMD's answer to the Intel Itanium.
As a sidenote to this article something about x86-64, AMD's answer to IA-64. Both architectures are 64 bit but as opposed to Intel AMD has not gone through the trouble of making a new design. Instead, their existing architecture has been extended with a number of 64 bit tricks. The first x86-64 cpu will be the Sledgehammer that will be introduced in the beginning of 2002. With Clawhammer, a cheaper version of Sledgehammer, Amd targets the consumer right at the launch of the architecture. The advantage of AMD's approach is that it costs a lot less money and offers much better support for existing software, disadvantage is that the architecture is still based on the aging x86.

Als 'n in Frankrijk wonende Nederlander ben ik juist blij dat Tweakers.net in het Nederlands is. 'k mot de hele dag al Frans en Engels spreken, dus af en toe terugkeren naar mijn moedertaal vind ik toch wel pretig.

Mischiens dat het 'n idee is om Tweakers.net in zowel het Nederlands als het Engels te maken?

For you englisch speaking guys and girls, I'll give a brief translation of the famous dutch words I've just spoke!
As a Dutchman living in France, Tweakers.net is a welcome site that keeps me dutch. Speaking my own language is very nice.

Cheers,
Ralph
edit:
Dit mailtje was trouwens geschreven om m'n "tussenproxy" te testen. Dus het mag best als overbodig worden gemod! M'n tussenproxy zit er om de normale firewall te 'verblinden' door de webpagina's in 'n wrapper in te pakken. Daarnaast maakt hij de machine waarop ik m'n webbrowser draai min of meer onvindbaar (voor de firewall)!

in een NL/EN versie gaat wel dubbel zoveel tijd zitten en IMHO zijn er genoeg Engelstalige-hardwaresites. Alleen bepaalde reviews waarmee tweakers.net de eerste is worden ook in het Engels gepubliceerd.

Ik heb zo 1 vertaalfoutje gezien. Op p9 staat bovenaan "FlaskMPEG gebruiken". ff wijzigen; staat netter :)

Fixed

Ik ga sowieso deze vertaling nog eens door de spellchecker gooien, weet niet of gollem en Majic dat hebben gedaan.

Edit: ik hoop dat ik nu alle grote fouten eruit heb gevist.

Nu missen we toch NL => EN in babelfish of zo, dan is het zo gepiept.
Als je dat 'even' implementeerd ben je zo klaar.

Nou, gezien de belachelijke lage RC5 benchmark, wanneer gaat iemand van DPC de core optimizen voor Itanium???

De sourcecode is gisteren opieuw getarred en op de homepage gezet, en is dus geheel up to date.

Veel success!!

Leto (ivo at distributed.net)

Ivo, lol, hebben jullie nog geen itanium staan ofzo }>

Hehe .. LOL .. tweakers.net is slashdotted :)
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/01/25/135201.sh tml

Het mooie is dat ze allemaal denken dat Tweakers.Net gehackt is omdat ze de tekst niet begrijpen bij de welbekende plaatsjes van de auto's :P

Luckily there are more benchmarks than the ones you see everywhere. Like the distributed.net client, better known as the cow. Luckily this one would work on the system although the processor wasn't recognized obviously.
ff een beetje zeurderig, maar het leest een beetje houterig als je twee keer achter elkaar een woord op dezelfde manier gebruikt.
Suggestie: vervang de eerste Luckily door
Fortunately
en de tweede zinLuckily... door And at last this one did work with the setup, although the processor obviously wasn't recognized.

Gewoon lekker miereneukerig, maar je moet iets rond deze tijd ;)

Zouden we door deze buitenlandse stormloop ook ineens een hoop nieuwe RC5-leden krijgen? :z :Z

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