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The Real Stuff:AMD K6-3 Preview: Finale

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 19:140 reacties

In het kort samengevat, Anand Lai Shimpi's preview.
source:AnandTech.
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"Windows 98 has always been the Pentium II's domain in terms of overall performance simply because its L2 cache performance would increase with every clock increase, unlike the K6-2. With the the L2 cache of the K6-3 being on-chip, Intel has been booted from the top of the charts, and replaced by the third generation K6 processor. At 350MHz, the K6-3 gives the Pentium II 450 and Celeron 450A a run for their money, at 400MHz AMD already has the fastest business processor, and at 450MHz, the K6-3 sees no competition at all. Even under Winstone99, a benchmark that seems to perform better on Intel processors/chipsets, the K6-3 still comes out on top by a fairly large margin. An 8% performance differential exists between the K6-3 450 and a Pentium II 450 under Winstone99, a difference that is expressed as a 12% gap under Winstone98. The bottom line? The K6-3, clock for clock, is, without a doubt, faster than the Pentium II in business applications. The larger cache of the Pentium II (512KB) does give the edge over the K6-3 in terms of disk troughput and overall disk performance, however the separation isn't noticeable enough to deem unacceptable from AMD's standpoint. This is nothing more than an illustration of the 512KB L2 running at 50% clockspeed vs 256KB L2 running at clockspeed comparison made earlier in the article, from a disk perspective that is. Quake 2 is truly the best case scenario when it comes to 3DNow! implementation in a game. AMD spent months working on the driver for Quake 2, and the results of their efforts are outstanding. The K6-3 is a solid gaming performer, even outrunning the Intel processors in the CPU intensive crusher.dm2 test, and leading the pack in both benchmark runs. Turning off the precious 3DNow! compatibility causes those frames rates to drop around 20 fps illustrating the dire need for 3DNow! support in games in order for the K6-2 & K6-3 to survive. Without the 3Dfx card to rely on, the picture doesn't change at all. The K6-3 is still strong in spite of the lack of any hardware accelerators to take the load off of the processor itself. But all of this Quake 2 talk is quite idealistic since the implementation of 3DNow! in Quake 2 is very unrealistic compared to most other games, let's see how things look trough the fog in Unreal, one of the most taxing games for an entire system (one of the reasons why it wasn't a big seller). The benefits of the K6-3's L2 cache are seen once again with the performance of the K6-3 under the L2 cache-happy Unreal benchmark."

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The Real Stuff: AMD K6-3 Preview deel 2

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 18:160 reacties

In het kort samengevat, de preview van Ananad Lai Shimpi
source:AnandTech
WHAT YOU GET

"If a higher clockspeed was all AMD would provide as an improvement over the K6-2 with the introduction of the K6-3, this review would have come to an abrupt end, however it's obviously not. Quietly learning from Intel's experimentation with the effects of L2 cache on overall system performance, AMD decided to take a stab at including a set amount of L2 cache on the K6-3 chip itself, and from AnandTech's expierence with the unreleased K6-3, it seems as if they put their money on the right bet. Looking at the K6-3 itself, there is one thing you'll notice off the bat, the K6-3 is around 1mm thicker than the K6-2...what's the reason for that? When Intel released the Celeron, the lack of any L2 cache dropped the processor's business application performance to below Pentium MMX levels. Turning the Celeron name into a success, Intel decided to include a full 128KB of L2 cache on the processor die of the Celeron, wich dramatically increased its business application performance, and brought rave reviews from all that touched the new processor, dubbed the Celeron A. AMD's decision was to include 256KB of L2 cache on the die of their K6-3, while leaving the rest of the design of the K6-2 (with the CXT core modifications) intact, making the K6-3 AMD's Celeron A, that's what makes up the extra 1mm in thickness on the K6-3 chip. There is a tradeoff between more cache running at a lower speed, and less cach running at a higher speed, and AMD decide to position themselves at the most strategic point, an almost perfect balance between quantity and performance. While the Pentium II has a full 512KB of L2 cache, it is only running at 50% of the clockspeed, and the Celeron A has its L2 cache running at clockspeed, however it is only outfitted with 128KB of L2 cache. AMD chose to include a full 256KB of L2 cache at clockspeed on the K6-3, something Intel will be doing in January with the release of the DIXON-processor. The problem with the original K6-2 was that the L2 cache was always locked down to the speed of your system's FSB frequency, in most cases, 100MHz, and realistically, at most, 125MHz. With the L2 cache on all K6-2 systems never rising above 125MHz (anything above 125MHz put too much of a strain on peripherals, and would crash randomly). AMD has a performance advatage over the Pentium II. When the K6-3 makes its debut, even the Pentium II 450's 225MHz L2 cache won't be able to keep up with the 350MHz-450MHz L2 cache speeds of the first K6-3's."

volgend deel: Finale

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The Real Stuff: AMD K6-3 Preview deel 1

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 17:020 reacties

Hier in het kort samen gevat, de preview van Anand Lai Shimpi.
source:AnandTech

"It wasn't until the release of the K6-2 that there was reason to have faith in AMD again, the K6-2 pulled trough as a highly competetive product to the Pentium II, at a lower cost. In response to this treat, Intel released their own low-cost alternative, the Celeron A , wich once again, put AMD to shame. Troughout their history, AMD has always seemed to fall just a hair short of winning the gold, and in a race where only the winner survives, second place just doesn't cut it. Officially planned for launch sometime in early 1999, the K6-3 will be the last processor for AMD to be used in a socket-7 mobo before they make the transition to their new slot based architechture for the K7. The roots of the K6-3 are securely fastened in the same ground that sprouted the K6-2, in that the K6-3 is based on the same core as its predecessor was. The 0.25 micron chip boasts the same 64 KB of L1 cache, the same 3DNow! instructions, and the same motherboard requirements as the K6-2. AMD's goal troughout the process of revitalizing the Socket-7 platform has been to offer a clear upgrade path to all Socket-7 users, without requiring them to purchase new mobo's, as AMD assumes that if you're going to buy a new mobo you may be lured away from Socket-7 by a tempting Slot-1 board. In the past, this goal has been met to a certain degree, with the K6, you needed to have a board that supported the unique core voltages of the processor, and with the K6-2 you needed to have a Super7 compliant motherboard in order to get the full benefit of your processor. This time around, AMD simply requires that your mobo's BIOS be up to date with full support for the new AMD K6-2 400(based on the CXT core) in order to take advantage of the K6-3."

Volgend deel 2: What you get

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http://Baghdad-Iraq.org hack is fake

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 16:450 reacties, bron: hacknews.bikkel.com

Dit stukje vond ik op hacknews.bikkel.com:

"It appears the Baghdad-Iraq Web site never got hacked. Or better: we can safely assume they didn't get compromised. It turns out the Web site was registred on December 18th, during the real Operation Desert Fox. The whole 'hack' was a fake. Thanks to Ken for informing us."

En dan nog wat info over het domein http://Baghdad-Iraq.org die ik in alt.hack.nl vond:

Official name: www.Baghdad-Iraq.org
Addresses: 207.31.80.7

Whois for www.baghdad-iraq.org
whois -h whois.internic.net baghdad-iraq.org

Registrant: none. (BAGHDAD-IRAQ2-DOM)
none.
baghdad, AK 3856
IQ

Domain Name: BAGHDAD-IRAQ.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Bargh, Sadam (SB13368) thamind@SHELL.ASSWIPE.NET
none.
(FAX) none.
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
DNS Administrator (DA3706-ORG)dns-admin@HYPERMART.NET
404-760-8152
Fax- 404-760-8158
Billing Contact:
Bargh, Sadam (SB13368) thamind@SHELL.ASSWIPE.NET
none.
(FAX) none.
Record last updated on 18-Dec-98.
Record created on 18-Dec-98.
Database last updated on 21-Dec-98 03:00:26 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.HYPERMART.NET 207.31.80.2
NS2.HYPERMART.NET 207.31.80.3

IP block lookup for 207.31.80.7

whois -h whois.arin.net 207.31.80
NetRail, Inc. (NETBLK-NETRAIL-BLK2) NETRAIL-BLK2 207.31.64.0 - 207.31.127.0
Hypermart (NETBLK-RAIL-HYPERMART-1) RAIL-HYPERMART-1
207.31.80.0 - 207.31.80.255

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Creation Records gaat singles aanbieden op internet

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 11:070 reacties, bron: TheRegister

De platenmaatschappij Creation Records heeft besloten om hun singles een maand voor dat de singles in de winkel liggen op hun website te zetten.

Creation Records, die onderandere de groep Oasis onder contract heeft staan, zal beginnen de singles gratis aan te bieden aan het begin van het nieuwe jaar.

Volgens Creation Records zullen de singles van hun website worden gehaald op het moment dat ze in de winkels liggen. Niet dat dat wat zal helpen om het toch nog tegen te houden, want dan heeft iedereen die hem wil het singletje toch al gekopieerd en wordt ie op andere plekken aangeboden.

De 'baas' van Creation Records Alan McGee vind het een goed plan. Volgens hem is het een goede manier om hun muziek te promoten. Als mensen een liedje mooi vinden zullen ze ook sneller het album gaan kopen. Zo heeft Creation Records er toch wat aan. Volgens Alan McGee is de singles-markt toch aan het inkrimpen. "Mensen beginnen steeds meer complete albums te kopen."

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AMD in de notebookmarkt

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 11:060 reacties, bron: TheRegister

Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), gaat vanaf volgend jaar Intel beconcurreren in de notebook-markt.

Rana Mainee, Europese markt research analist (vrij vertaald uit het Engels) vertelde dat AMD de prijzen waar nodig lager zou maken. Hij zei ook dat AMD door zal gaan met de prijzen van hun processoren 25 procent onder Intel's prijzen te houden. Waarschijnlijk gaat AMD de prijzen verlagen nadat Intel de 366 MHz en 400 MHz Celerons op de markt heeft gebracht (4 januari).

AMD is trouwens niet de eerste die Intel volgt in de notebookmarkt, eerder besloten al Cyrix, Rise en IDT om deel te gaan nemen in de notebookmarkt

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K6-3 Preview

Door Tweakers.net Nieuwsposter, 22 december 1998 11:040 reacties, bron: Coolinfo

Anandtech heeft een K6-3 preview gepost. Hier is een stukje:

"If a higher clock speed was all AMD would provide as an improvement over the K6-2 with the introduction of the K6-3, this review would have come to an abrupt end a few paragraphs ago, however it’s obviously not.

Quietly learning from Intel’s experimentation with the effects of L2 cache on overall system performance, AMD decided to take a stab at including a set amount of L2 cache on the K6-3 chip itself, and from AnandTech’s experience with the unreleased K6-3, it seems as if they put their money on the right bet. Looking at the K6-3 itself, there is one thing you’ll notice off the bat, the K6-3 is around 1mm thicker than the K6-2…what’s the reason for that?"

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